Fable the Lost Chapters - Get bandit weapons

I've tried many times to get the bandit scimitar, and I've only managed to get it with mods, however you can get there obsidian longwords and bows in the elite camp.

Sometimes you will just get lucky and be able to find a weapon laying on the ground, if not then you'll have to try to get it.

To do this I believe you need to make one bandit mad at you (punch him) and then leave the area, and come back and sleep somewhere a few times, then go back to where he was and his weapon will sometimes be laying on the ground.

If that doesn't work after several tries post a comment and I'll try to see if I said something wrong because I haven't done this trick in a while.